Episode Discussion: TFGH

Huh?  The Dr. O/Faison retcons make even less sense after today.  So Dr. O said Faison only wanted a son if it was with Anna (which, hey, Caesar, ever heard of a condom?) and sent the other random son *coughPeterAugustcough* off to boarding school and basically ignored him, just like he did with Britt.  So why would it matter whether she told Faison about Nathan?  He wouldn't have taken any interest.  And thusly, why would he take an interest now?  Am I missing something?

But Dr. O Uber-ing to Anna's all sloshed was kinda fun.  And I was all excited about busting out the fierce hats for a Anna/Dr. O team-up, but naturally, this awful show had super spy Anna go running to Sonny for help.  Ew ew EW!

I guess Genie Francis is taking a break?  Hence stupid Spencer's off-screen accident and her urging Kevin to run for mayor in place?  And oh my sweet Kevin, thinking a serial killer in the family would be a knock on a mayoral campaign given a different SERIAL KILLER is the town's sweetheart, blech.  I kinda wanted him to agree to run and then have Lucy step in as his campaign manager, would have been so soapy!

Edited by TeeVee329.

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OMG, I don't know if I will survive the mayoral race/gentrification storyline. Just when you think GH has reached the total bottom level of boring, it turns out to have an underground garage. 

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There was a rumor going around that she quit. I guess it's true. I don't think it's a break because it wouldn't make sense to write this mayor stuff and then have her all of a sudden have to go to Spencer.

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1 minute ago, ulkis said:

There was a rumor going around that she quit. I guess it's true. I don't think it's a break because it wouldn't make sense to write this mayor stuff and then have her all of a sudden have to go to Spencer.

Oh that's right.  Uh oh!

And if that's true, we better keep custody of Kevin!

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Kathleen Gati was so good today. Her drunk Liesl had the attitude of a cat who had been left out in the rain and was now pissed at the world for suffering such an indignity. I don't even care that her knowledge of Faison's other son is a clear last-minute revision because she sold it well, and the show is at least making an effort to justify her decision to hide Nathan's paternity.

Kim works better with Julian than Jason IMO, but I could have done without Julian looking down his nose at Jason for being in the mob. All of Julian's victims are turning over in their graves at his implication that he's morally superior to Jason.

Is Kevin really replacing Laura as candidate or are we just going to pull another name out of a hat next week? I don't like this storyline but it sucks for Laura that fucking Spencer has derailed her ambitions.

I'm so tired of the show relying on the JaSam theme music and decades old clips to try to play to our emotions in place of Steve Burton actually emoting any love or longing for Sam. 

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9 minutes ago, ulkis said:

There was a rumor going around that she quit. I guess it's true. I don't think it's a break because it wouldn't make sense to write this mayor stuff and then have her all of a sudden have to go to Spencer.

And this is her grand exit story? Tracy's exit story was dumb as hell and nonsensical but she got one and it lasted a few weeks. 

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2 minutes ago, ulkis said:

There was a rumor going around that she quit. I guess it's true. I don't think it's a break because it wouldn't make sense to write this mayor stuff and then have her all of a sudden have to go to Spencer.

Wow. The mayoral race is a decent story for Laura, though of course we're grading on a curve.

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

But Dr. O Uber-ing to Anna's all sloshed was kinda fun. 

"I'm an adult. *blows raspberry*" Hee. 

3 minutes ago, Linny said:

I'm so tired of the show relying on the JaSam theme music and decades old clips to try to play to our emotions in place of Steve Burton actually emoting any love or longing for Sam. 

Ugh, that music. I HATE it. In a weird way, I kind of admire the show for so brazenly refusing to write all the soapiness of this story. 

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7 minutes ago, Linny said:

I'm so tired of the show relying on the JaSam theme music and decades old clips to try to play to our emotions in place of Steve Burton actually emoting any love or longing for Sam. 

Mileage varies, but I think he has been doing that quite a bit.

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3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

And this is her grand exit story? Tracy's exit story was dumb as hell and nonsensical but she got one and it lasted a few weeks. 

If she did quit, it must have been very abrupt given, like ulkis said, all this set-up about her running for mayor.

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3 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

And this is her grand exit story? Tracy's exit story was dumb as hell and nonsensical but she got one and it lasted a few weeks. 

The rumor is it was very sudden. Someone needs to spill what went down darn it.

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Perhaps something is going on in Genie's family life that needs her attention at this time?

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If it is her exit,  it's incredibly lame. Spencer shouldn't need his grandmother holding his hand, and bedlam, for months. I hope she comes back soon because the Laura/Alexis and Anna/Obrecht scenes were the best part of the episode.

If Kevin doesn't want to be in politics,  he shouldn't be pushed into it. I'd rather see Stella run for mayor. She has organizational experience and she can connect to the people. And it would give her something to do other than harassing Jordan.

Maybe Sonny is trying to convince Jason that Sam loves only him so that he can believe Carly wouldn't run to Jason as soon as he crooked his finger. LOL at Sonny telling Spinelli how the trap should go as if Sonny actually could think of a good plan.

As someone who is dealing with real life body image, it always makes me laugh when Liesl refers to Anna as "scarecrow ".

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By the way, I think I've already said this, but I'll say it again here so I can point back to it if I'm right...

...I think that the mother of this other Faison son is going to turn out to be Anna's EVUL TWIN Alex.

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36 minutes ago, Linny said:

 

I'm so tired of the show relying on the JaSam theme music and decades old clips to try to play to our emotions in place of Steve Burton actually emoting any love or longing for Sam. 

I am convinced they are trying to slowly kill "love" for that pairing. They will be revisited but after much fuckery of Drew and Sam.  If they were actually going to do a legit triangle, they would have.  This isn't it.  It's a poor excuse to appease all fans involved and to throw that fandom as many bones as possible.

Edited by Hater.

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1 minute ago, statsgirl said:

Spencer shouldn't need his grandmother holding his hand

He's got two broken legs. I don't think it's outrageous that Laura wants to go to him. It's not like Spencer's parents are alive to do it. I was in the hospital for a fever a few years ago and I wanted my mom there, even though there was nothing for her to do but sit with me. And I'm waaay older than Spencer. 

16 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Perhaps something is going on in Genie's family life that needs her attention at this time?

If this is a permanent exit, something awful somewhere must have happened for her to up and quit.

8 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

...I think that the mother of this other Faison son is going to turn out to be Anna's EVUL TWIN Alex.

Same. It ticks a lot of boxes the story has set up.

Anna was wearing another fantastic coat when she went to see Sonny (ugh). Plaid mohair? I deeply covet it.

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The Show: Aren't you excited to see Anna and Sonny team up!!!!

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Liesl said that Faison didn't want Heinrich because Anna wasn't his mother. I think if were Alex, Faison would have kept him around and pretended that it was Anna.

22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

He's got two broken legs. I don't think it's outrageous that Laura wants to go to him. It's not like Spencer's parents are alive to do it. I was in the hospital for a fever a few years ago and I wanted my mom there, even though there was nothing for her to do but sit with me. And I'm waaay older than Spencer.

I can understand that if she was going to visit and see how Spencer is doing or maybe bring him back to Port Charles to recover as Kevin assumed. But she's going to stay in Europe by Spencer's side for the whole six? eight?  weeks to recover and that's why I thought it's overkill. If he's still in school he'll manage without her unless she's going to sit in on his classes and if he can't be in school she should bring him back with her.

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1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

He's got two broken legs. I don't think it's outrageous that Laura wants to go to him. It's not like Spencer's parents are alive to do it. I was in the hospital for a fever a few years ago and I wanted my mom there, even though there was nothing for her to do but sit with me. And I'm waaay older than Spencer. 

Just a thought. Was it Spencer himself that called Laura or a doctor to relay a message? If so, it could be a ruse to get her out of the race. Though I hope sincerely that Ned wouldn't go as far as to make Laura think her grandson was seriously injured.

Edited by LexieLily.

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I'm rooting for Faison.  #teamFaison

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The Sonny/Julian scenes were so badly written. First Julian blames Sonny for the problems at his "gastropub," then he blames Sonny for being in cahoots with Greg Evigan, then he blames Greg Evigan. Huh? Sonny has never been interested in real estate that way. What happened to that parcel of land he was going to develop with ELQ, anyway?

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2 hours ago, ulkis said:

Mileage varies, but I think he has been doing that quite a bit.

Yeah, I've seen him doing his job. I also see him very much playing Jason in character. And it's part of why I've hated Jason for a long time, lol. Most viewers want to see men fighting to be with a woman. Except .... Jason accepts things. He deals with them and moves on. (I also got his from Robin, but it really describes him, so I'm using it). He may love and miss Sam, but if she doesn't want him, Jason is OK. He will move on and I think that's where this is leading. 

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2 hours ago, LexieLily said:

Perhaps something is going on in Genie's family life that needs her attention at this time?

Possibly. They did say Spencer's recovery would take six weeks. Either way, what a startling way to write Laura out.

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So is Alexis going to run for mayor?

Molly?

Or are they going to drop this election all together.

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It should be Stella, an actual resident of the area and someone who isn't white and/or a teenager. VW-J is recurring, but that shouldn't matter. WK is recurring, too, and he's the opposition (as of now).

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3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

By the way, I think I've already said this, but I'll say it again here so I can point back to it if I'm right...

...I think that the mother of this other Faison son is going to turn out to be Anna's EVUL TWIN Alex.

I hope so, because I've been fearing that it's Anna.

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4 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

By the way, I think I've already said this, but I'll say it again here so I can point back to it if I'm right...

...I think that the mother of this other Faison son is going to turn out to be Anna's EVUL TWIN Alex.

Is Alex now an evil twin?  i didn’t watch FH’s last turn as Alex on GH from last year.  

 

On AMC, Alex was never evil.  She went off in a happy marriage to Dmitri.  And Dmitri returned, sans Alex, for the online re-boot. 

 

I guess if I keep checking in here twice a day, I should check in and watch the show.  It’s kinda a Sophie’s Choice though. Quit PTV or watch GH. Quit PTV or watch GH.  

Edited by Francie.

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4 hours ago, ulkis said:

The rumor is it was very sudden. Someone needs to spill what went down darn it.

Oh Genie, never quit.  I mean never quit quitting all the time and throwing off storylines. And then coming back. And then quitting.  Consistency is a viture, after all. 

I’m still miffed at how this show went from grade A+ entertainment, medium be damned, to middling less-than-average soap opera in a matter of, literally, episodes.  I’m telling you, this show was near perfection in 1996. Guza — yes, that Guza — had set up a wonderfully interwoven, complex and compelling umbrella story that included close to 80% of the cast.  It was SO good. Truly must see tv.  And a large part of that was Genie’s performance. She, and everyone else, was bringing their A game. Even Maurice! 

And then Genie got pregnant and wanted an immediate break.  And it was right at the same time Guza left due to Sunset Beach being picked up.  And while Guza said he left a detailed outline as to how the storyline would play out, the showrunners instantly scrapped all of it and played wack-a-mole with Genie’s time schedule. And I’m parity queen, so I get that Tony had his outs and that Genie should have been entitled to them, too. But Tony would give them months’ notice so that they could work it out. Genie was more like “ummmmm, so how about 3 weeks in December, and then I want another month off for the holidays, and how about 73 minutes the third week of January. But I have to be done by 2:45. And then I’ll be back May-ish. Maybe. Toodles!”

And the show in 1997 was unrecognizable dreck. YMMV. But really, it was. 

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41 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

I hope so, because I've been fearing that it's Anna.

It’s so going to fucking be Anna. Because that’s how my life goes, fanbase-wise.

Actually, this is how it’s going to go:

The plan right now is that it’ll be tanker baby (aka the baby Robert and Anna had conceived prior to her January of 1992 kidnapping by Faison.  Robert, Anna, and Faison all blew up on a tanker, supposedly.  But no bodies recovered. We hardcore RNA fans believe that Anna was pregnant at the time of the tanker explosion. Hence, tanker baby). 

So, the plan right now is that it’ll be Tanker Baby in the end. But, we’re forced to go through a whole bunch of plot twists beforehand.  The planned reveals will occur as follows: 

1) Faison says kid is Anna’s. 

2) Anna will be convinced she willingly slept with Faison. 

3) Faison will go along with that. And then, FINAL REVEAL 

4) Faison has been deluding Anna (and perhaps himself), and it’s really tanker baby (aka Robert’s, after all).

Except, part 4 of the plan will never be executed.  So, we’ll be stuck with a hurried, last minute rewrite where the baby, after all, is in fact Anna’s and Faison’s. 

Until it become Dr. O’s and Faison’s. 

Because this show refuses to give me anything good. 

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Genie 'quit', huh? I guess Big Steve needed plane fare!

Yes, that's my role on this forum now! To come in and just say random shit! With exclamation points!

ETA: 

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1 hour ago, Francie said:

Is Alex now an evil twin?  i didn’t watch FH’s last turn as Alex on GH from last year.  

She sure was. Finola did a much better job as Alex last year IMO than she had in the 2000s. But it was never remotely explained. As I said at the time though, I didn't find it too OOC - Alex was DVX/some offshoot of DVX on AMC, she'd been brainwashed into that profession years prior. I had frankly entertained the idea of doing the same with Alex at some point, but the story they gave her last year was nothing and boring.

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