Small Talk: How Not To Get Caught Dead With Dirty Underwear

54 minutes ago, Lovecat said:

I hope the FBI doesn't monitor these boards.  I don't want to wind up on the news...

I hear ya!! :). My fiance does the same thing.... sees someone using a credit card, on surveillance cameras.... says "what a dumbass, they must not watch this show..." HAHA

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Three more things crime shows have taught me: 

 

1. If you are on drugs stay on them! As soon as you clean up and get your life organized you're toast. 

 

2. Should your restraint-ordered ex call and want to meet you behind the jiffy store at midnight at the edge of town DO NOT GO. He/she is up to no good. They do not want to suddenly discuss a reconciliation or how they can help raise the children. You will be killed, chopped up, and scattered around the county possibly never to be found. 

3. If you are a person who "lights up the room" when you enter brace yourself; you're life is going to end suddenly and violently. Every second counts from now on so enjoy them! Or become a grinch and you'll die peacefully in your sleep at 99.

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I was reading that Paulie from Hell's Kitchen was found dead.  I was wondering what he died of.  My hubby said that Paulie didn't light up a room so he probably wasn't murdered.  It was not nice but I laughed. 

It sounds like it was a drug overdose. 

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Drug overdose, and I am betting it's heroin. So many chefs get hooked too easily trying to keep up with a super-charged life.

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Can we attempt to discuss Cosby?  It's a HIGHLY charged issue, but I'm talking more about the legal proceedings themselves.  What's happening reminds me of what we often say here about various Dateline cases.  Do I think he did it?  Yes.  Do I think that can be proven after this amount of time?  I think it's very unlikely.

I understand the jury's verdict.  We'll see what the second trial holds.

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Everybody knows Cosby, men love him. If they could get a jury of equal numbers women & men, we might see a guilty verdict. There were only 2 women on that jury. I'd love to know who the holdouts were. His prior deposition alone told me he did it. There cannot be reasonable doubt with 60+ women accusing him of the same thing, but I understand why their testimony isn't allowed.

No matter what the ultimate verdict is, his career is over. And I cannot imagine his wife staying, if she has a brain left.

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Really???? I am so disappointed in her. What did she do... hide in the closet and watch him drug and have sex with other women?

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Mrs. Cosby is living the high life being married to a multi-billionaire. She can do whatever she wants, wherever and whenever -- she is filthy rich from Cosby's $. Emphasis on "filthy." So why should she look that gift horse in the mouth? She had to know about his "proclivities" (TM Teabag), but maybe part of their deal was, he stays "off" her and she keeps her mouth shut. Yes, that says a lot about her, but what does she care what anyone thinks? JMHO, of course. But money talks BIG. We know this because Dateline "regular people" murderers kill people they "love" for it. As for Cosby himself, he disgusts me. But famous people just don't go to prison *coughOJcough* for crimes, especially a crime against women (who are considered second-class citizens by so many men. Sorry, but it's true.). My money is on Cosby never seeing the inside of a jail cell, and never being convicted of anything.

And IMO, he's guilty as hell.

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I watch CBS This Morning each morning.  Today, Rikki Klieman, a CBS legal analyst was asked if any additional cases could be brought against Cosby if he is acquitted in the Andrea Constandt case.  Klieman said no because the statute of limitations has run out on all of the other possible claims.  I understand why the prosecutor wants to try the case again, but I don't think they are going to get much further than they did in the first trial. Klieman said the same judge will be hearing the case, and he already ruled that only one other accuser can testify besides Constandt.  This person also testified in the first trial as well, and Klieman thinks it's unlikely that the judge will change his mind about allowing testimony from additional accusers.  It seems it will all come down to the jury (which makes me think of TV's Bull.)

One other tidbit.  CBS also interviewed an alternate juror who heard the evidence but did not have a jury vote.  He said he would have voted to convict.

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Thanks for that information. I've avoided the coverage because it just makes me so angry.

 

So does the statute of limitations junk.

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4 hours ago, Court said:

Thanks for that information. I've avoided the coverage because it just makes me so angry.

 

So does the statute of limitations junk.

I am highly in favor of statues of limitation.  There is none for murder.  If something so egregious and criminal happened to you, it should be reported to the authorities.  Having a busload of accusers pile up on someone for generally the same offense after years and decades is ridiculous, IMHO.  Any forensic evidence is gone.

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There has been a lot of cover up of the Cosby rapist acts through the years. Comedians who traveled the same circuits were aware of his proclivities. If it were not for Hannibal Buress speaking up -- and putting his career in jeopardy -- we still wouldn't know about Cosby the Rapist. Just because someone PORTRAYS a beloved sweater-wearing father on tv doesn't mean he isn't a creepy perv in real life. Cosby has a lot of power and could make/break anyone who supported/did not support him. There are many layers to why women couldn't or would not come forward. From what I've been told by a professional comedian who worked with Cosby, he was NOT a nice person and pretty self-important. But stand up to or talk back to him and you are finished in show business. Period.

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15 hours ago, saber5055 said:

If it were not for Hannibal Buress speaking up -- and putting his career in jeopardy -- we still wouldn't know about Cosby the Rapist.

That isn't exactly accurate various allegations had been covered over the years. As early as 2005/6 there were several mainstream media outlets from The Today Show to People reporting on some of the allegations, Philadelphia Daily News ran several stories but most people simply didn't care or thought the women were lying.

Someone illegally recorded that Hannibal bit and for whatever reason it went viral and caused a ripple effect but Hannibal has said he never expected it to land that way and he most certainly didn't think he was putting his career in jeopardy when he went on an unfilmed riff in a Philly comedy club. 

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GMA had an interview with one of the jurors, who said in a straw poll everyone was voting to acquit. Then, discussion began, someone put a fist into a wall, and it came down to 10-2 for guity on 2 of the counts. The main ones, that he gave her drugs without her knowledge and had sex without her consent. The other two people wouldn't budge no matter what. Dan Abrams said that the defense can yell jury tampering or that the initial vote to acquit should be enough, but that the judge would just order a new trial. Which the prosecution is already planning. Same judge, same jurisdiction.

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Two of the allegedly only two hold-out jurors are refuting the above report, saying it was not 10-2 to convict.  Since none of us were at the trial or in the jury room, I guess we'll never know.

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The male juror who gave an interview made me sick. He said "If I was injured, I'd go to a doctor right away." No, bozo, I bet if you were raped you'd hide it from everyone and suffer in silence.

He said that Cosby just didn't look guilty, he couldn't be, he was Bill Cosby. I really wish to hell they'd have a change of venue. Same courthouse, same judge, similar jurors.

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