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All Episode Discussion: Happyish

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These people have no redeeming qualities. Unless someone promises me they all die in a fire next week, I'm done.

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John: Imagine, if every man could just steal an inch or two from another man - walking down the street, or on a bus, or in a workplace - just, BAM! Now I've got two more inches! Everyone would be looking to steal penis inches from everyone else, and everyone would be terrified that someone was stealing from them. THAT is corporate America, Tom.

Most accurate analogy for what drives the corporate mindset I've ever heard.

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I didn't like the whole "sending the present" back drama.  So stupid.  And asking the 5 year old if he wants to help in hurting his grandma by sending the present back? Who would do that?   The parts involving his work are good but the family stuff sucks.

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As a Jew, I was very unhappy with the way this episode "represented" Jews to an audience that contains many who aren't Jewish. I realize the writer/creator is Jewish. That just makes it worse. Because it means people out there who don't know any better may take his self-loathing view of his people and culture as the truth.

 

People accused Philip Roth of being a "self-hating Jew" but they were wrong, because he was getting at something real in his novels. This guy is just trading in ugly stereotypes.

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I might be the only one here, but I think this show's been getting better by the week.

 

And that annoying gecko with the dead baby joke? Yep.

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I've seen all the episodes so far and  I think what bugs me the most about this show is that the main leads seem really over the top to me in their responses to things. I just never understand why they're so upset about the things they're upset about. The episode where the woman's mom sends the kid a giant gift and there's all this angst about what to do about it including a rather inappropriate involving of the kid himself just made me think ok what did this woman do to her to warrant so much bizarre rage? I need to know more so I can understand. Tonight they were both fantasizing about chasing down the space ship and I kept thinking really? Why? What is your problem? I mean their lives just don't seem that level bad to me so things really fall apart on my end whenever they go bugfuck over some relatively minor stressor. I'll chalk it up to arrogant writing and trying too hard to be whimsical. I also hate the fantasy sequences.

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OK, talk about weird coincidences. What were the chances that last night's episode had a focus group watching an ersatz "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" commercial on the same night as the Mad Men finale which featured "the real thing," pardon my pun?

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OK, talk about weird coincidences. What were the chances that last night's episode had a focus group watching an ersatz "I'd Like To Buy The World A Coke" commercial on the same night as the Mad Men finale which featured "the real thing," par don my pun?

Planned ? Not Planned

I just watched the last 20 minutes of Mad Men, having never watched more than 5 minutes and after watching the episode of Happyish, I asked the exact question.  No mention of it anywhere in the media.

 

Would love to read opinions

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I watched just enough of the episode before the last one to see that once again, Shalom Auslander was putting out his very weird and self-loathing definition of what it means to be a Jew as if that's what it really means. And then I changed the channel.

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Planned ? Not Planned

I just watched the last 20 minutes of Mad Men, having never watched more than 5 minutes and after watching the episode of Happyish, I asked the exact question.  No mention of it anywhere in the media.

 

Would love to read opinions

Forbes.com made the observation.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenkilloran/2015/05/18/mad-men-finale-coke-ad-appeared-on-happyish-on-the-same-night-but-it-wasnt-the-real-thing/

Upshot seems to be that the commercial is so iconic that it might have been a coincidence. I don't think I buy it (pun intended).

It was more interesting to me that MM (apparently) paid to air the "real thing" (see what I did there?) and Happyish had to do the we've-changed-it-enough-to-not-have-to-pay-but-you-know-what-it's-supposed-to-be thing. This after going balls to the wall with other household name brands.

BTW, love your nom de forum. I have a feeder outside each of my living room windows and have my babies so tame that they'll drink from them while i hold them - I'm working towards getting them to drink out of my hand.

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Thanks

my hummingbirds came back to my kitchen window looking for the feeder !!

love them

 

jury out for me on coincidence or on  purpose.....  it is a 40 year old ad (which I can't believe) as I am of that era, why dig it up.

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Coincidence. Weiner kept that a secret until

The day of.

The cartoons distracted me at first, but this show is just so dismal. Plus, most of the characters speak with the exact same pseudo pretentious references and philosophies. Their lines could be switched and half the time it wouldn't matter.

Steve Coogan is one of the funniest actors around but is totally wasted on this show. Any actor could be playing that part-(I know PSH was supposed to). They really don 't know how to write for him.

How did this get greenlit, twice?

PS- Woody called, he wants his dated 70s Jewish neurosis stereotypes back.

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PS- Woody called, he wants his dated 70s Jewish neurosis stereotypes back.

 

Yes, not only dated, but at this point derivative. Woody's comedy worked because it had the authenticity of real life driving it. (I'd venture that he didn't deal in stereotypes, but truthful pain, which is what made it funny.) If Auslander really believes the Jewish stereotypes he's trading in, we can't laugh with him, all we can do is feel sorry for him, because it must be a lonely hell he lives in. 

 

I've got no problem with him portraying the Kathryn Hahn character the way he does. There are people like that, and they're worthy of dramatization. It's that Auslander ascribes her characteristics directly to her being Jewish that's offensive. (Not just to Jews, but to the entire audience whose intelligence is being insulted.)

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okay, I'm out.  Happy? Happy is nowhere near this thing. Ragish, Blowhardish. Holier than thou ish.

 

The topper was the drunk wives screaming in the mall. Guarantee everyone there wanted to kill them both. With broken Coke bottles.

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Happy is nowhere near this thing. Ragish, Blowhardish. Holier than thou ish.

 

Plus, I'm convinced all of these characters would simply fall down and die in fit of helplessness if confronted by an actual problem.  People firmly determined to be unhappy regardless of privilege and ease.  

 

Bye! Have fun whining! I was stuck in my house waiting for a tradesman to finish refinishing a bathtub.  The fumes necessitating that I stay in my office, with my dogs, door closed and I had very limited viewing options....and this show didn't even make the "It just has to be better then noxious fumes to make the cut" grade.  

 

2 episodes in and I had flee. 

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I watched a few episodes, skipped some. Came back to the series and the son was wearing a dress and singing the Frozen song while his parents and their two friends clapped like it was the best thing ever. I'm out. Hope the series ends with these two miserable people committing suicide.

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How the hell would Tom still have a job?  His company keeps laying people off, he is a miserable suck who makes sure everyone knows that he hates what he does, he rarely even pretends to work, but he still has a job.  I keep trying to enjoy this show because of the actors, but I hate the characters.  The only character that makes me more stabby than Tom is his horrible, whiny, special snowflake child.  Even my love of Kathryn Hahn cannot make me sit through this anymore. 

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How the hell would Tom still have a job?  His company keeps laying people off, he is a miserable suck who makes sure everyone knows that he hates what he does, he rarely even pretends to work, but he still has a job.  I keep trying to enjoy this show because of the actors, but I hate the characters.  The only character that makes me more stabby than Tom is his horrible, whiny, special snowflake child.  Even my love of Kathryn Hahn cannot make me sit through this anymore. 

The only TV kid I've despised more than this one is the one from Girlfriends' Guide To Divorce. That one was a head case, which is compwetewy the diwection that thif one and his wittle wisp are heading in.

 

I'm going to ride this one out till the season "finally" only because I'm slightly OCD about finishing things (even though I'm only half paying attention when I watch it now). But after that, Elvis is leaving the building. For keeps.

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How the hell would Tom still have a job?  His company keeps laying people off, he is a miserable suck who makes sure everyone knows that he hates what he does, he rarely even pretends to work, but he still has a job.  I keep trying to enjoy this show because of the actors, but I hate the characters.  The only character that makes me more stabby than Tom is his horrible, whiny, special snowflake child.  Even my love of Kathryn Hahn cannot make me sit through this anymore.

These people have good lives with only fairly minor annoyances...that they freak out over. Am I supposed to identify with a mother who really appears to dislike kids? Doesnt have enough time for her art? They're obviously well off. Arrange for some after care and organize your frickin time. Am I supposed to identify with a man who is supposed a great advertising person, but somehow doesn't understand that fads/trends change over time? That there's a youth oriented culture? Oh, and the kid. Honestly, he needs therapy for all that damn whining.

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I feel like I need to be high to appreciate this show. 

 

Don't get me wrong...I can identify with being mid-40's in a company that is starting to hire more young people in their early 20's so we don't get "too old" and set in our ways.  And my company, too, is doing it in a way that doesn't really take into consideration how and where to integrate those people and actually benefit from it without disrupting business in a bad way. 

 

I can also identify with not really enjoying the child care part of children.  I mean, I want to reach through the tv and smack the kids on this show, so I imagine having to be a parent to any of them would make me want to scream in my car, too.  But, I knew I didn't have the nerves for it, so I didn't have children.

 

I think I was expecting the show to be funnier.  It's more dramatic than funny, and that's throwing me off because I'm all fed up with existential angst on tv.  It's your life - suck it up or change it.  Watching people whine about their lives is no fun unless it's funny.   

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I keep watching this and I'm not quite sure why. I am a huge Steve Coogan fan, but he is so wasted in this.

Enjoyed reading all the reasons why everyone else is so annoyed by this show. It just confirms all my own frustrations. And I hadn't even focused on the child, but yes, let's add little adorakable to the list.

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I'm hate watching it to the end (OCD much?) and I hate myself for it. 

 

Lispy Adorkable sends me into a rage spiral as do his mom and dad. 

The whining is deeply unfunny and they hit these outrageous levels of misery about the smallest things. 

I'm bored every time I'm at Coogan's job. It's all mumbling and eye rolling. 

I hate the fantasy sequences too. They just don't work for me at all and leave me feeling tired.

Remember the scene where the wife moves into a huge barn and starts using it as a studio?  She let that old man sit there for the rest of the day evne though she wanted to get to work. Am I supposed to feel for her? And yet she goes from zero to psychotic rage when a  teacher suggests that what she does isn't really work. Yea toots, it's not if that's all it takes to derail you! I got the impression that the writers wanted me to side with her, too. I don't think so. Have a cup of coffee with the old man, listen to his story and then tell him you have to get back to work. See? Easy!

 

OK I'm off to my car to have a 20 minute scream fest, if anybody needs me.

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This may be the most loathed show on television.

If more people watched it, yes. I haven't met a single person who has watched the show.
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I'm hate watching it to the end (OCD much?) and I hate myself for it. 

 

 

 

I am too although I have skipped a couple of episodes and fast forwarded through a lot.  Such clichés and unoriginality.  Ikea jokes?  Really? 

And you could see the pregnancy coming a mile away - just as he was actually going to quit his shitty job. Oh no! 

I guess the next season would be jokes about middle age couples having babies.

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Deleted the last episode w/o watching. Feeling so relieved. It was too depressing to even hate-watch. Adios, motherfuckers.

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I watched it. You didn't miss anything. She's pregnant. So he can't quit his job to write pretentious short stories. And there is a slide.

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I've only seen three episodes, but I think I like it better than most.

 

But I stumbled into a very, very bad parenting moment: my five-year-old, Dora-loving daughter was sitting on my lap watching with me when that painting of Dora popped on the screen--her abuela holding a large knife with one hand and Dora's severed head with the other, while Boots chewed on Dora's viscera.

 

Oops.

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Forbes.com made the observation.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ellenkilloran/2015/05/18/mad-men-finale-coke-ad-appeared-on-happyish-on-the-same-night-but-it-wasnt-the-real-thing/

Upshot seems to be that the commercial is so iconic that it might have been a coincidence. I don't think I buy it (pun intended).

It was more interesting to me that MM (apparently) paid to air the "real thing" (see what I did there?) and Happyish had to do the we've-changed-it-enough-to-not-have-to-pay-but-you-know-what-it's-supposed-to-be thing. This after going balls to the wall with other household name brands.

 

Yeah, that drove me crazy, that the melody was "off".  I started to wonder if I was remembering it wrong!  But YouTube confirmed I was not.  As you say, it seemed strange, given that they seemed in earlier episodes to be able to use real branded stuff.  But maybe music is different somehow.

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I sometimes get annoyed with the show for hitting so hard its theme of "life sucks, everything's bullshit".  And that was true in spades at the beginning of episode 5, "Starring Josey Wales...".  But there is a rare brilliance in being able to make me laugh my ass off at a scene that consists simply of a lonely old man straightforwardly recounting the relatives he lost in the Holocaust.

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