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I noticed he's no longer a Vietnam vet, but Afghanistan.  It's certainly been updated - I watched episodes 5 - 8 tonight and was noticed the Ferguson, MO. comment from Rev. Ott.  Pretty current!  And, yes, they DO still make flip phones - I have one. LOL.

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Also, the resolution to the Brasher plot was quite different in the books and the show!

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I remember Irving being much more unlikable in the books than in this series.

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He was. I was kind of surprised to see that Irving was an ally in the show.

Season 2 runs plots from three books: Trunk Music (the porn/mob guy's murder), The Drop (Irving's son's death), and The Last Coyote (his mother's murder). I don't think I read the last one, I don't remember much about the Irving's son book but the one I do remember very well is Trunk Music. That book stuck out in my mind because I remembered that the whole Vegas mob plot (that spans the first two-thirds of the book) was all a red herring because it turned out the wife did it.

It WAS neat how they managed to tie two of the plots together on the show, I thought it was nicely done.

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Trunk Music (the porn/mob guy's murder), The Drop (Irving's son's death), and The Last Coyote (his mother's murder)

While the subjects are the same as in the books, they've changed a lot of the details and circumstances. Solving his mother's murder was a lot more convoluted in the book. Irving's son's death had nothing to do with him being under cover, and there are no connections between his death with the mob guy's death in the book.

 

It'll be interesting to see what they plan to do with the Eleanor and daughter characters in season 3 if they get renewed, because their character arcs have deviated quite a bit now compared to the books.

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If they do get renewed for Season 3 and they have the budget to shoot in Hong Kong, it would be interesting to see them do Nine Dragons.

 

It'll be interesting to see what they plan to do with the Eleanor and daughter characters in season 3 if they get renewed, because their character arcs have deviated quite a bit now compared to the books.

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I love this representation of the Bosch books. The guy playing Bosch may be younger but is dead on correct to the Bosch in my head. I love him. Really hoping for season 3.

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Long time fan of the Bosch book series here. It took me three or four episodes to really warm up to Welliver as Bosch. He was different looking in my mind - always a problem after one has read so many books with a recurring character. But he's won me over. It was also a bit jarring to start so far into the series and see the plots all mixed up, but I went with the flow and really enjoyed it, especially the second season. The casting is excellent in general, and they manage to reproduce the tense conflict that drives the books so well.

Particularly nice detail - they emphasize the hallways whenever possible. Those long, dark, enclosed spaces are no doubt as a shout out to Bosch's fear of dark tunnels. I am gratified father/daugher relationship rings genuine as well.

I hope there's a Season 3, even though the book set in Hong Kong is by far my least favorite of the series.

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On 3/22/2016 at 10:40 AM, Voice of Joy said:

Long time fan of the Bosch book series here. It took me three or four episodes to really warm up to Welliver as Bosch. He was different looking in my mind - always a problem after one has read so many books with a recurring character. But he's won me over. It was also a bit jarring to start so far into the series and see the plots all mixed up, but I went with the flow and really enjoyed it, especially the second season. The casting is excellent in general, and they manage to reproduce the tense conflict that drives the books so well.

Particularly nice detail - they emphasize the hallways whenever possible. Those long, dark, enclosed spaces are no doubt as a shout out to Bosch's fear of dark tunnels. I am gratified father/daugher relationship rings genuine as well.

I hope there's a Season 3, even though the book set in Hong Kong is by far my least favorite of the series.

My husband and I listen to the Bosch books in the car. We are in the middle of the latest one.  We do not listen when not in the car, so it keeps up the suspense.  Titus Welliver has been the reader for the last few, which is a nice touch, as we are fans of the show too (He makes himself drawl like Matthew McConnahey when he plays Mickey Heller.  I keep hoping they will have MM guest star on the TV show). 

 I hope they continue changing the plots the way they have been, as it makes it more interesting for those who have read the books.  I usually don't enjoy movies made from a mystery I've already read. I'm trying to figure out what is going on with season 4. It sounds like it is only two episodes. 

We also disliked the Hong Kong book.  A misfire on many levels needed to explain plot twists. 

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On 3/13/2016 at 10:39 AM, molshoop said:

I remember Irving being much more unlikable in the books than in this series.

Plus him and Bosch was mortal enemies.   In the one with the coyote that finds the kids bone.  Bosch finds out he stop an investigation lead that would have quit the killer when it happened.  

 

The youth home. Bosch was in as a kid. He talks about in S3E03 to the tagger kid.  Is that youth home still in business in modern day LA?

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Just finished Two Kinds of Truth and am really enjoying the change of pace in the later books with Harry out of LAPD.  I don't suppose the show will go there, though -- maybe in the final season?

On 3/21/2018 at 4:42 AM, GussieK said:

My husband and I listen to the Bosch books in the car. We are in the middle of the latest one.  We do not listen when not in the car, so it keeps up the suspense. Titus Welliver has been the reader for the last few, which is a nice touch, as we are fans of the show too.

Ya know, Welliver has won awards for his audio performances, but I don't like his reading! It's fun to hear his voice, but his narration seems very flat and rushed to me. Personal quirk!

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On 3/13/2016 at 10:39 AM, molshoop said:

I remember Irving being much more unlikable in the books than in this series.

I can’t believe how much I’ve eventually warmed up to the TV version of Irving; the book version of this character was odious.

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Ya know, Welliver has won awards for his audio performances, but I don't like his reading! It's fun to hear his voice, but his narration seems very flat and rushed to me. Personal quirk!

I agree. While it's nice to have Titus Welliver narrate in the new Bosch audiobooks, his voice is a bit too monotone. I prefer Len Cariou's narration much more in the older books.

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Len Cariou is also my favorite, but I enjoy Titus Welliver's work. As long as they don't go back to the guy that read #16, The Black Box. I grew up in the Central Valley, 15 minutes from Manteca, 30 minutes from Modesto and Stockton, respectively. I can't tell you how it freaking grated on my nerves to hear him mispronouncing the various names of cities from the valley. Thank God he managed Modesto and Stockton, since those were the major players. But every single other one (Manteca, Ripon, and Salida spring to mind) he managed to fuck it up like he was doing it intentionally!

Anyway. Rant over. Here's a video clip with Michael Connelly and Titus Welliver at the LA Times Festival of Books talking about Titus doing the audiobooks:
 

Another great clip:
 

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I wonder if they will ever mention Bosch's half-brother, he was a pretty interesting character in the books.

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2 hours ago, judyri said:

I wonder if they will ever mention Bosch's half-brother, he was a pretty interesting character in the books.

I'm wondering whether or not they have the rights to the character.

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Maybe they're waiting for Matthew McC. to agree to be on the show.  ;-)

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5 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Maybe they're waiting for Matthew McC. to agree to be on the show.  ;-)

That would be superb. I still love this show even as it is and adore Bosch’s relationship with his daughter Maddie. Good plots, great actors and subtle but effective action. I’m sitting on my hands for the next season. I only came to this show about a month ago and binged all four seasons. Now I’m at a loss...well Goliath comes back for its second season in two weeks. 

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1 hour ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Maybe they're waiting for Matthew McC. to agree to be on the show.  ;-)

Maybe the Lincoln Lawyer can buy a new car and his corporate sponsor can underwrite his appearance 

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16 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

I'm wondering whether or not they have the rights to the character.

I’m thinking that’s probably the case right there, like maybe the tv show is only able to use characters that appeared exclusively in the Bosch novels.

I’ve been wanting Rachel Walling to show up, but as she’s originally a character from a non-Bosch novel and only shown up in Bosch’s world a couple of times, maybe they can’t use her. Or maybe they can and have been waiting until they killed off Eleanor.

Who, by the way, is a character I liked way more on the show (largely due to Sarah Clarke) than in the books. In fact, I hated Eleanor in the books. 

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Mickey Haller's been in some Bosch books. (Or was it the other way around?) Connelly's an exec producer - I don't think rights are a problem.

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19 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Mickey Haller's been in some Bosch books. (Or was it the other way around?) Connelly's an exec producer - I don't think rights are a problem.

Yeah, but since the Lincoln Lawyer and its character were sold as movie rights to... whatever film company it is, they get sole custody of the characters in that book (and possibly other sequel books) for whatever length of time they paid for. So the tv show may not be able to use Haller, even with Connelly as an EP. 

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22 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Mickey Haller's been in some Bosch books. (Or was it the other way around?) Connelly's an exec producer - I don't think rights are a problem.

@kariyaki explained why.  It's possible he could get the rights back at some point, which is what happened with Bosch, and Haller could appear but right now, I would imagine he's still exclusive to whoever produced the original movie.

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