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2 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

I have a feeling - based on absolutely nothing! - that Gabi and Stefan may eventually become a villainous couple down the line. When's the last time the show had one of those?

I don't think this particular show ever had one.  The last one I remember on any soap was Theo and Suzanne on GH.

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5 minutes ago, Tasha Brand said:

I don't think this particular show ever had one.  The last one I remember on any soap was Theo and Suzanne on GH.

I was about to ask who the hell they were, then I remembered: That terrible, incomprehensible "Balkan" crap...

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31 minutes ago, Tasha Brand said:

I don't think this particular show ever had one.  The last one I remember on any soap was Theo and Suzanne on GH.

Stefano and Kate.

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I was thinking Sami and EJ and Nicole and EJ but I guess they really don't count as villains couples but def kate and stefano.

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So Will and Paul couldn't find an apartment any closer than the one Nicole and Xander lived in in Nashville?  That's gonna be one helluva commute!

Poor Ben.  I mean, really all he wants is

Baby, do you understand me now?
Sometimes I feel a little mad
But don't you know that no one alive can always be an angel
When things go wrong I feel real bad.

I'm just a soul whose intentions are good
Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

Okay, sure, so he killed a few people - not all of the murders actually TOOK, though, did they?  Can he at least get credit for that?  And as he said so eloquently, after he was released from the Happy Dale Asylum for Neck Tie Killers and Poor Self Esteem, he didn't HAVE to come back to Salem, no indeedy NOT.  He could have relocated just about anywhere but he came back to Salem to get everyone who hates him for being a serial killer to just lighten UP.  Come ON, Salemites, he SAID he was sorry.   He did it all for love, as he told Sonny.

But he's over having the sadz, now he's getting the madz.  And if they don't want to accept his apology and have him over for a little lunch, maybe a night out at a murder mystery dinner theater - at least hire him a high end Men's Apparel Store because if there's one thing he knows, it's neck ties!

Just ain't fair.

ETA - I see Ben isn't above using his resume to get what he wants when he wants it, reminding Wyatt that he could snap his neck like a twig but he's reformed.  Now WHY won't people just forget what he did - except for him, when it's to his advantage??

(I have a brother who has pulled some pretty awful crap, very bad, over the years and he's in a state of constant anger that there's plenty of people in the family who won't forgive him and don't want anything to do with him.  But he SAID he was sorry, is his constant refrain.  Uh huh, don't work that way.)

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How convenient that Wyatt simply shows up and 'admits' to planting the accelerant. And that the Salem PD takes his word for it. It seemed a bit.... pat and rehearsed.

I understand Ben's anger - he doesn't get any sort of break. Yes, he will always have to carry what he did. The kettles in Salem do not like meeting the fellow pots. Surely someone in Salem can hire him for some menial job so he gets a few more lumps. His handling of Wyatt's tie was well done.

Chad finally finds cell phone reception in the middle of nowhere? I did like his Gabby dream - and noted how flat Abigail/Gabby was - no sign of a woman who has just had a baby.

Will arranges for an apartment but no furniture? Of course Paul is going to read his private diary. And then the crap will hit the backsplash and Paul will hopefully wheel himself out of Will's life once and for all and the dysfunctional twosome of him and Sonny can implode again. Paul will hopefully not be fooled again and take up with a much better man who actually wants to be with him and not out of guilt and obligation.

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51 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

I was about to ask who the hell they were, then I remembered: That terrible, incomprehensible "Balkan" crap...

Terrible story, yet once they were revealed to be married, their stock went way up.  I remember the praise for that twist on TWoP.

28 minutes ago, nilyank said:

Stefano and Kate.

They never really did anything villainous together, though.

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How convenient that Wyatt simply shows up and 'admits' to planting the accelerant. And that the Salem PD takes his word for it. It seemed a bit.... pat and rehearsed.

 

It was rehearsed.  He went there after Claire offered him money.

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50 minutes ago, boes said:

So Will and Paul couldn't find an apartment any closer than the one Nicole and Xander lived in in Nashville?  That's gonna be one helluva commute!

 

 

Paul is rich enough to hire his own chopper, right? I snorted when I realized the setup they went with, guess they just couldn’t stand letting go of it yet. The furniture guy was...a choice, as well.

I mean really show, Paul should be loaded, a millionaire easily, why does he live as if he’s practically destitute, relying on the kindness of strangers, sheesh. 

 

46 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Will arranges for an apartment but no furniture? Of course Paul is going to read his private diary. And then the crap will hit the backsplash and Paul will hopefully wheel himself out of Will's life once and for all and the dysfunctional twosome of him and Sonny can implode again. Paul will hopefully not be fooled again and take up with a much better man who actually wants to be with him and not out of guilt and obligation.

 

Will was too busy scribbling hearts around the name “Sonny” in his diary probably. 

I totally agree, Paul just needs to regain his freedom from all the nonsense and let Will and Sonny become their old boring snooze fest. Their scene in Ronan’s place was so lackluster to me.

In real life I have so many queer and gay male friends who find CS perfect, heh, so Paul definitely wouldn’t struggle finding a great man who actually wants him for him. 

Has Freddie decided to just act with one singular facial expression now? I feel like he phones it in so much they could put a cutout in his place and it’d still have more screen presence. 

Congrats, Abby, you just delivered an 8 week old baby, I hope help arrives before all your organs just fall out on the couch. I don’t think Chad can boil enough water to handle that sort of crisis. 

Hope’s eyebrow is either trying hard to act or flee her face, I am leaning hard towards the later option.

Rafe, shove it. 

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1 hour ago, AnswersWanted said:

Their scene in Roman’s place was so lackluster to me.

As is anything relating to Will and Sonny.

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Stefan really should not fuck with Gabi.  Especially when she has Kate on her side.  And when the two of them could easily get Sami involved.  Best threesome ever!

Ciara is so much more enjoyable this way.  Her glee at the end of the show today was creepy but fun.

Whatever goodwill I had for Ben (which was next to none) was lost today when he used his strangling past to scare Ciara's patsy.  I mean, sure, it was pretty shitty what that guy did but Ben insists he's changed.  He should have confronted him in another way.  

9 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Ben is a psychopath. It is an antisocial disorder with no cure. I have no problems with people treating him badly.  Hope and Race being smug assholes does not negate or mitigate Ben's evilness. Just because you have a mental illness does not mean you are not accountable for your actions. Ben knew right from wrong when he killed people and set Chad up.  

I totally forgot that Ben set Chad up for the murders. 

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4 hours ago, Harmony233 said:

I was thinking Sami and EJ and Nicole and EJ but I guess they really don't count as villains couples but def kate and stefano.

I feel like when EJami happened, Sami was given the heroine treatment instead of being the villain. Nicole hasn't really been the show bitch since it was revealed that she was forced to take part in kiddie porn. I kind of miss unrepentant bitchy Nicole who bitched about living in a dump.

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Plus it's like they de-aged Ben to fit with the SORAS'd teens when he was hot to trot for Abigail during his murder spree.  Confusion abounds for me. So... watching him is a bit more compelling these days but I feel bad about it.

On the AMC reboot, there was this really weird bit with his character Petey having a fling with a girl just out of high school (and who weirdly still lived at her boarding school and wore the uniform) despite him having to be at least in his mid-20's. His off/on-again and age-appropriate crush Colby made a pretty funny crack about him dating a high school girl.

RSW's lucky to have such great smooth skin. It doesn't really look awkward having him around these late teens/early 20's kids despite him being 30 in real life.

Anyway, after age 18, soap characters generally become ageless and go up and down based on story needs. Melanie was probably the best example.

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7 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

Whatever goodwill I had for Ben (which was next to none) was lost today when he used his strangling past to scare Ciara's patsy.  I mean, sure, it was pretty shitty what that guy did but Ben insists he's changed.  He should have confronted him in another way.  

Yea, I really don't get why they went there. It basically ruined the whole thing for me and I had actually been liking Ben a lot.

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Ben still has crazy eyes.  

I enjoyed Sony and Bens scene.   Haven’t really liked Sony in a long time.   Thought he was pretty good in that scene.   When he talked about Bens anger returning it’s exactly how I feel.  

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9 hours ago, Tasha Brand said:

As is anything relating to Will and Sonny.

 

Tell the truth. 

I just cannot find anything pleasing about them. If there is one thing I will not stand for it's a soap coupling that bores the living daylights out of me. 

The one and only good thing about them sharing scenes is that then I can just press my fast forward button happily and skip them entirely. 

 

8 hours ago, Kitty Redstone said:

I totally forgot that Ben set Chad up for the murders.

 

So did I. 

 Well then someone needs to go and remind Chad too so he can demand Ben return his money because technically he owes him at least 3 free choke holds, 1 car jacking, and give or take 1 or 2 knocks to the head from behind. 

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53 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Yea, I really don't get why they went there. It basically ruined the whole thing for me and I had actually been liking Ben a lot.

I actually liked the scene i mean I felt bad for poor Wyatt who I wouldn't mind seeing more of but I like the fact they have been struggling with his issues it's a lot more realistic than abby altars being gone because she spent a week with her grandmother.

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