Show Spoilers and Book Talk

14 hours ago, Nidratime said:

Here are the "character portraits" of the leading characters who will be in season 3.

http://www.outlandertvnews.com/2017/07/new-outlander-season-three-character-portraits/

Scrolling through those I didn't see the character names at first so when I got to the young man with the blue eyes that I didn't recognize who looks a lot like Sam I thought "hey, did they already cast adult William?" LOL. I expected Fergus to be a bit darker, I guess. They all look great in any case.

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I can't focus on shaggy!Jaime because I'm too busy crying over poor baby Fergus. It hurts my heart just seeing a picture...this season is going to kill me.

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They're definitely changing up the story line. I don't think it was Jamie who picked Fergus up after he was hurt and took him to Lallybroch but the soldiers, themselves, who then tried to pay off "his family."

Also, his hair should be hidden under his hat, right?

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3 minutes ago, Nidratime said:

Also, his hair should be hidden under his hat, right?

And, shouldn't the hat be brown?

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Should we assume from those portraits that they've aged up Marsali to avoid the squickiness of 30-year-old Fergus running way with a 15 or 16-year-old girl? Because she looks noticeably older than Brianna there.

Sam's quote in the accompanying text mentions that "He’s not himself for maybe six episodes."   I can't remember how many episodes this season is supposed to have but wouldn't that put the reunion somewhere around the halfway point, assuming that's what he means?

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I don't mind such changes, I can see how Jamie carrying bloodied and screaming Fergus (instead of the Red Coats doing so) would make for a gut-wrenching on-screen moment. The same about Jenny being the one to "sell" Jamie to English soldiers instead of one of their tennants. The end result is the same but on the screen we also get a powerful image of "betrayed" brother and sister whose heart is breaking, surrounded by armed British soldiers. Altough I have to admit that this particular change gives me a pause - I can see the benefits for the Murrays, getting on the British good side by "betraying" their hiding Jacobite relative. But wouldn't it also put a huge stigma on Jenny in the eyes of other Highlanders - a sister who sold her own brother to the enemy? Because how many people could have been on the joke?

 

1 hour ago, Nidratime said:

Also, his hair should be hidden under his hat, right?

That's the whole point of the hat, yeah. Here his hair are all hanging loosely on his shoulders and back, so the point is missed entirely.

 

I will reserve my judgement of Young Ian until I see him on the screen but based on the portrait he seems completly off the mark to me. He is supposed to be dark-haired, dark-eyed and swarthy, his look combined with tatoos in later books make other people mistake him for Native American. Cannot imagine this young man to blend into a tribe.

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Blonde Ian is giving me pause too for the same reason.  What's funny is that the guy they've cast as adult Fergus looks like he could be related to Jamie, and at least the coloring would be in the ballpark.  The shape of his face and Sam's are very similar.

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2 hours ago, Grashka said:

I will reserve my judgement of Young Ian until I see him on the screen but based on the portrait he seems completly off the mark to me. He is supposed to be dark-haired, dark-eyed and swarthy, his look combined with tatoos in later books make other people mistake him for Native American. Cannot imagine this young man to blend into a tribe.

Funny you say that, because I must have missed that description completely in the book.  I always thought Ian was blond, and I always wondered how he fit in with the Native Americans as a blond.  Thanks for sharing!

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4 hours ago, Grashka said:

I don't mind such changes, I can see how Jamie carrying bloodied and screaming Fergus (instead of the Red Coats doing so) would make for a gut-wrenching on-screen moment. The same about Jenny being the one to "sell" Jamie to English soldiers instead of one of their tennants. The end result is the same but on the screen we also get a powerful image of "betrayed" brother and sister whose heart is breaking, surrounded by armed British soldiers. Altough I have to admit that this particular change gives me a pause - I can see the benefits for the Murrays, getting on the British good side by "betraying" their hiding Jacobite relative. But wouldn't it also put a huge stigma on Jenny in the eyes of other Highlanders - a sister who sold her own brother to the enemy? Because how many people could have been on the joke?

Perhaps the servants will be in on it too and spread the word to their tenants? I'm not too worried about Jamie carrying Fergus instead of the Red Coats, but I do find it interesting Fergus is so young. In the book, he must be about 17 years old, right? He was 10 in France, less than a year in Scotland before Culloden, and Jamie lived in the cave for seven years...wasn't it Fergus getting his arm cut off what prompted Jamie to turn himself in? 

Anyway, I think it'll work out okay in the end, just got me to thinking.

4 hours ago, Grashka said:

I will reserve my judgement of Young Ian until I see him on the screen but based on the portrait he seems completly off the mark to me. He is supposed to be dark-haired, dark-eyed and swarthy, his look combined with tatoos in later books make other people mistake him for Native American. Cannot imagine this young man to blend into a tribe.

Yeah, I'm not feeling him either, but I haven't seen him "act" yet, so it might work out fine. They've done a fantastic job with casting up until now. I had the same reservation with Lord John at first, too, but after seeing the promo photos--and watching the actor in another role--I think it's going to be fine. 

I have to say though, I didn't realize how much Caesar and Sam resembled each other. Are we sure they aren't brothers? CRAZY!! ;)

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12 hours ago, Nidratime said:

They're definitely changing up the story line. I don't think it was Jamie who picked Fergus up after he was hurt and took him to Lallybroch but the soldiers, themselves, who then tried to pay off "his family."

Also, his hair should be hidden under his hat, right?

They have to cut things somewhere and it doesn't really matter much how Fergus gets home.  And if he's rushing to get Fergus somewhere because Fergus' freaking hand was cut off, I doubt he's giving much though to his hairdo. 

7 hours ago, FnkyChkn34 said:

Funny you say that, because I must have missed that description completely in the book.  I always thought Ian was blond, and I always wondered how he fit in with the Native Americans as a blond.  Thanks for sharing!

I'm with you. I always thought that young Ian had his father's lighter coloring - I never pictured him dark. 

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12 hours ago, nodorothyparker said:

Should we assume from those portraits that they've aged up Marsali to avoid the squickiness of 30-year-old Fergus running way with a 15 or 16-year-old girl? Because she looks noticeably older than Brianna there.

Marsali's character bio on STARZ page says that her character is 18 years old, so they have aged her up 3 years. The actress who plays her is very young and from what I've seen of her BTS she looks like a teenage girl. IMO as with Young Ian, this portrait of her is just unfortunate - she looks rather matronly.

1 hour ago, toolazy said:

I'm with you. I always thought that young Ian had his father's lighter coloring - I never pictured him dark. 

Young Ian indeed took after his father and inherited Murrays physical appearance, he doesn't have McKenzies/Frasers good look. Elder Ian is described as homely looking, with brown hair and dark eyes.

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Ouch... They are showing the first episode of season 3 in San Diego.

 

https://twitter.com/Outlander_STARZ/status/888559219196149760

 

I suppose spoilers will be all over the web and soon we learn at least whether Murtagh is truly dead as he is in the book or there is still chance (if they had not shown his death) and what happened between Jamie and Randall at Culloden.

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On 7/20/2017 at 1:09 PM, nodorothyparker said:

 

Sam's quote in the accompanying text mentions that "He’s not himself for maybe six episodes."   I can't remember how many episodes this season is supposed to have but wouldn't that put the reunion somewhere around the halfway point, assuming that's what he means?

It's 13 episodes.

Yeah, it seems like the reunion is in episode 6 or 7. People were making that guess based on some filming spoilers and other things the cast has said. At one point Cait said they filmed episode 8 early to accommodate filming schedules of some cast (and it seemed like episode 8 was when they're back in LallyBroch.) and that when they filming episodes 6 and 7, she and Sam would be together for the rest of the season filming from that point.

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Ouch... They are showing the first episode of season 3 in San Diego.

Yeah, I'm not "feeling" that decision. Why water down the premiere with an episode that is entirely spoiled? Oh well.

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6 minutes ago, Nidratime said:

Yeah, I'm not "feeling" that decision. Why water down the premiere with an episode that is entirely spoiled? Oh well.

And the blonde young lady from EW (forgot her name) is supposedly live-tweeting the entire episode right now "eye roll"

Besides isn't it sort of waste of panel? They got so many people there and for some of the actors (Sophie and Rik) it's their first ComicCon and a great opportunity to introduce them to the audience.

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27 minutes ago, Grashka said:

Ouch... They are showing the first episode of season 3 in San Diego.

I'll just flat-out say it pisses me off. SDCC has always annoyed me a bit. It's haves vs have-nots. 

This world needs more socialism, and that includes the entertainment industry.

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I'm angrier at STARZ that demands all this secrecy and then spills a whole episode which they know will be spoiled. What's the point of all the -- "We can't say this; can we say this?" -- if you're just going to show the damn episode. Ugh!

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I'll be tip-toeing carefully around the internet to avoid spoilers from the first episode but I don't mind that they showed it at SDCC.  They did the same thing for the first-ever episode and it was a good way to generate buzz for the new show.  The gap between season 2 and season 3 was longer than usual due to their moving it from April to September so creating buzz to bridge that gap by having an sneak peek viewing of the first episode in July seems like a reasonable decision.  I'm sure the fans in the audience fairly lost their minds so I'm happy for them.  But I'll be treading carefully for a few days.  Diana has invited people to discuss the ep under a posting on her Facebook page so if you don't want to know anything about the ep, steer clear of that.

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Variety posted their review of season 3 premiere which doesn't reveal any of the "big things" but  if you don't want to know anything about the episode structure or what sort of scenes 20th century section contains, then probably better not read.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/outlander-season-3-premiere-comic-con-sam-heughan-caitriona-balfe-1202502913/#respond

I will just single out the passage about acting:

 

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All in all, the cast’s work is uniformly exceptional throughout, especially from Heughan, who must convey a lot of grief, physical torment and psychological pain with very few lines of dialogue. Balfe’s performance is similarly both poignant and tough. Through it all, both Claire and Jamie remain rebels, in two very different worlds but still connected emotionally, across the centuries. 

Also this little bit about BJR because LOL so true!

 

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it’s not clear if Black Jack is dead or alive (he looked kind of dead, but you never know with him).

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