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  1. S01.E05: Harvest

    I mean... Thank you! (bad language ahead....) I'm all, like, what the fuck is this guy's mother-fucking deal, man...srsly. Why doesn't he seem worried that a lady he "doesn't know" says she can feel his feelings and knows his thoughts...whaaaaaa-?? ASK SOME QUESTIONS, DAMMIT. Hmmmm, I donno, things like...."Are you a crazy person??" or, "Tell me everything."
  2. S01.E06: Cherry

    Oooooh, baby!! I love this theory....bc wouldn't the sheriff just do something like that? I feel like he's in love with Adora. And there's nothing he wouldn't do for her. LOVE. IT. (eeeeeeee!!)
  3. Rectify: In The Media

    RECTIFY. FOREVER. The 50 best TV show seasons of all time, according to critics
  4. S01.E06: Cherry

    Whether Camille was 14 or 17 when the rape occurred (I don't recall exactly), she could have become pregnant. Amma was not alive when Camille was a teenager -- perhaps you are confusing Amma with Camille's deceased half-sister, Marian, who died when both girls were in their teens. Marian is the ghost who shows up from time to time in Camille's visions and dreams. She's the one who held Camille's hand at the end of this episode and said, "It's not safe for you here." Marian has been dead for decades. Amma is very much alive, and around 15-yrs-old.
  5. S01.E06: Cherry

    ooooooooooooh. hmmmmmmmmmmm. I wanna share a theory, here, one that I've only shared with my husband. (Full disclosure, I did not hear Amma say that, but it serves my theory VERY well.) I think Amma is Camille's daughter, probably from the rape in the woods.
  6. S01.E06: Cherry

    I'd like to revise my statement and say that there is rape in this story. The town of Wind Gap is founded on rape culture -- all the way back to Calhoun Day. And I have never heard of such a despicable tradition, where a high school football team takes a "willing" cheerleader into the woods, for some good old fashion, turn-based sex. Wind Gap is raping it's youth with its warped stories, its secrets, and its lies. It is a wicked little predatory town. None are safe there.
  7. S01.E06: Cherry

    I think we all need to dispel with the rape speculation. The bottom line is, what happened in those woods was wrong. It was wrong for the boys and it was wrong for Camille. We are talking about one event in which half a dozen adolescent males had sex with a single, adolescent female. Would it be worse if the sex was overtly "non-consensual"? Yes, of course. But we've already established that their ages alone rule out the possibility for sexual emancipation and maturity---I think we can all agree that a bunch of 16-yr-olds are not mature or responsible enough to participate in a consensual orgy. In fact, I would argue that the event was traumatic for all of the children. Sure, it's easy to lay blame on the teenaged boys. But boys at that age are not sexually or emotionally mature, either. And the pressure to prove sexual dominance and conquest is much greater for them, than it is for their female peers. Let's consider the one boy (now a man) who seems genuinely troubled by what happened. He is disturbed. He wants to apologize to Camille. He wants to talk about it. Because he feels how wrong it was --- the mob mentality, combined with alcohol and raging hormones --- it was more of a sexual frenzy, than sex. Perhaps every one of these children was a victim of this event, however to varying degrees.
  8. S01.E06: Cherry

    This show is fucking me up so much. God. Dammit.
  9. S01.E05: Closer

    LoL You get it, girl!
  10. S01.E05: Closer

    Okay. While I tooootally understand where you're coming from, I am at this point 100% convinced that Adora is a Vindictive Narcissist -- the kind you want to run away from like you're being chased by a swarm of killer bees. There are different levels of narcissism in everyone, some of which is perfectly healthy (a little self-absorption/ -obsession is natural), and some of which transforms into pathological, behavioral, and abusive. According to Joseph Burgo, Ph.D., there are in fact five sub-types of Extreme NPD, the worst of which is the Vindictive Type: Camille is a threat to Adora for reasons that might not yet be apparent to us. I feel certain by now that at the very least, Adora perceives Camille as a threat to her status in the Wind Gap community, where she is accustomed to controlling nearly everything -- the jobs, the events, hell she even controls the law! So. Camille's presence as an investigative journalist who wants to expose the deep fissures of corruption and dysfunction in Adora's sick little kingdom might as well be inviting hell-fire and damnation from her mother. But Camille....doesn't really know...not exactly...how much her mother loathes her. Until Adora comes out and says it. There's no better reason to stop believing, to stop trying, to finally realize, "Shit. This bitch really can't stand me. Screw her. Okay, I guess I can leave and never come back forever baai!" That seismic shift in understanding is a gift. A terribly bitter gift, to be sure, but it's a gift nevertheless. Because Adora can't change and never will. It's Camille who must let go. Look. My mother died last year very quickly and very suddenly of advanced cancer. And I was on the fence about what to do... make amends? Maybe? Finally? I admit that I was open to the idea, but I had serious reservations that it could ever happen. Then, with her last breath, after I told her that she was the most beautiful woman I had every met, and a magnificent force of nature, she replied, "You....are a magnificent bitch." Then she closed her eyes, smiled, and flippin died. Know what? I drove away from that hospice a free woman, for the first time in my whole life. And I consider her last words a gift, probably the only gift she ever gave me. My conscience was clear.
  11. S01.E05: Closer

    I misspoke in my first post in this thread: For the first time in the series, Adora does Camille a kindness. The truth is, I never loved you. This is the truth that Camille needs to hear from her mother. While those words sound impossibly cruel and cold on the face of it, at least they have the power to shatter the mother myth for Camille, once and for all. They certainly have an immediately devastating effect on her, but I think with time, she'll come to accept that Adora never did love her, and that she in fact understood it along. Of course, I was initially gutted for poor Camille. But that pain subsided into relief. Because maybe she can finally get past the maternal love fantasy, and get on with the real possibility that love exists. I think Camille has what it takes to reclaim her life. That is my newest and best hope for our so badly damaged protagonist -- to find a little bit of true love for herself. And forgiveness.
  12. S01.E05: Closer

    Fair. I guess I'm of a certain age where I don't see how I could possibly use that word in a positive way -- I especially dislike it when woman call other women sluts in a pejorative way. But it gives me hope to know that young women are reclaiming any word that once worked against us. Why not?
  13. S01.E05: Closer

    I was too lazy to shazaam it, but I also wanna know which song was playing as soon as the end-credits rolled...I believe there were two... I didn't care for the second one. (shift) I would hate to ride the coattails of another user (i.e. @PENMAN61) who has already tactfully pointed out the folly of assuming Camille was "loose" -- but may I add that I don't think anyone wants to hear the word "slut" to describe anyone, in the year 2018? I don't. I really, really don't. I don't think I'm being too precious by rejecting that word, which (when I hear it) sounds like hate-speech on par with homophobic slang. Please, choose your words more carefully, so as not to obscure what might otherwise be valid insight, with unnecessarily ugly rhetoric. When someone says, "To me, she was just a slut" all I hear is, "I don't respect women," and I stop listening.
  14. S01.E05: Closer

    The only thing that Adora can do or say that would surprise me, would be if she extended even the slightest compassion toward her eldest daughter. So, why does Camille scream into her dress in the dressing room? Try overwhelming, abject humiliation, which happens to be my least favorite emotion. Later on, when Camille tells her editor (who I am more and more convinced is really her father) that being in Wind Gap makes her feel like a bad person -- that's pretty much all you need to know about Adora's catastrophic mothering. I have more to say about the episode, but I really must re-watch it when I'm not falling asleep on a red-eye back east.
  15. S01.E03: Fix

    If everyone thinks Amy Adams looks like day-old garbage, I'm really concerned about the state of my own face.