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  1. S02.E09: Alone

    No. Even presenting your partner as a spouse in a longtime couple does not give you the legal protection of marriage, except under some collective agreements for specific social benefits for example. In most jurisdictions in North America, unless you are legally married you are not automatically considered a legitimate heir and can be excluded from medical decisions or funerals and be thrown out of what you thought was your home; it's happened to straight people as well as gay people. Which is one reason why we in the gay community demanded for so long that same-sex marriage be legalised; not only for social recognition and acceptance, but also for legal protection regarding financial and personal matters. But as @txhorns79 rightly says, it is not a contest to establish who suffered the most. That columbarium sure seemed like it did not receive visitors very frequently; not a single one of those flower holders held anything. She did say in interviews posted in other threads that they did not get along and that she did not like him. So she would not have had much incentive to overcome the shortcomings of GV's will, as someone who must have had an influential voice on the board, or to go beyond the strict minimum that can be expected in out-of-court settlements that are common for such cases. Showing him attempting suicide was rather excessive in terms of artistic license, especially since there were no updates in the closing credits telling us that he survived and what happened to some of the other people, which is common practice in such recreations of real stories. But I think that it is possible in the process of understanding them to not only see their humanity and how it got twisted, but to also find likeable traits in them. We do not have to like them, but it may an inevitable by-product of the complexity of their character and personality. It can generate conflicting feelings in the viewers but it can also make for an interesting intellectual or emotional challenge.
  2. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    The way they told the story was the way they conceptualized it. First to get the big celebrity murder out of the way and then to start exploring in reverse the events that led up to it. They did not need big "effects" or "techniques", except for chopping up the chronology in some episodes. If they had shown the story in classical chronological order, the response by the viewer would have been vastly different I believe, because it would have been a case of waiting for the murder to occur and seeing a killer grow up from an atypical childhood, but still being a sympathetic youth, to becoming a violent killer. They would have gotten the same reception even if the story had started by the murder and then switched to a big straight flashback. Telling the story the way they did played on the viewer's responses in a way the standard chronology would not have done. They had to structure the story and make narrative choices that were consistent with their overall concept. Taking a script not designed to that end and simply showing it in reverse would not have worked the same way because it would not have been designed accordingly, unless some major tinkering with the editing was performed and not all scripts would allow for such restructuring.
  3. American Crime Story in the Media

    It was certainly part of the early Emmy and Globes campaign for the series, so one does not expect the cast and crew to be less than enthusiastic about each other. That being said, I thought that some of them had interesting insights and anecdotes about the shoot and the story. On high-profile series like this, it is standard practice for the network/production company to put forward names in just about all categories in the first phase of voting. According to Emmy rules, people's names can be put forward for the nominations round by the production or they can do it for themselves; it is of course better if you have the backing of a network's PR resources for the ensuing campaigning. At this point I would not dare to predict the outcome of nominations or final voting. Other potential nominees' work still remains to be seen, and voters' motives for selecting one over the other are not always objective: they may not like the subject matter, they may feel such a person is "due" an award, they may think it's too early in their career, etc. Or they may be carried by the strength of the PR buzz and wish to be on the "winning" side.
  4. S02.E09: Alone

    Even partners in straight relationships can be given the shaft by the family and legal heirs if there is no formal will. "Common-law" relationships are not as fully recognized as some people assume. From all accounts, GV's will was not the best crafted document from a legal standpoint; he provided for Antonio based on assets he did not own and he left his business to only one of Donatella's children, passing over her sibiling as well as her uncle and mother, which is a recipe for family tensions. Of course, he did not expect to be gunned down and have his life cut short. It did not look like a Sakosi sarcoma lesion but more like a burn, perhaps from his drug use like crystal meth. A weakness of the season may be the lack of attention to the manhunt itself; the FBI agent in the first episode is almost a blink-and-you-miss-it cameo for such a recognizable actor. I didn't get that at all, but I can see how any explanation of his life might make that possible. I am also of the opinion that it is not what the series intended. They showed that he was human, with all of the inherent contradictions; being human is a complex reality and there are few of us who are absolutely good or absolutely evil. the series does a good job at confronting us with this reality, as well as our discomfort with the fact that we may find at times AC to be a sympathetic and likeable person in his younger days.
  5. S02.E09: Alone

    Quite a step down from lobster at every meal. ;-) According to RM in this short interview summing up the series, it is a fact that AC was reduced to eating the stuff in the houseboat he squatted in. He adds a few other details about the show and his plans in this other article and in this piece also. It was jarring after a few episodes of a relatively socially functional AC, living as a real person with feelings (even if they were twisted at times), to suddenly get back to how we first met him, as a mostly stone-faced and unfeeling violent killer. Although there were flashes of a real person emerging at times, like when he watched his mother and Lizzie on TV, when he chuckled at his "success", or when he joined the choir while watching the funeral. But he quickly reverted to his unfeeling and impassive persona, for example while watching Marilyn's interview on TV and even when confronting his younger self. For someone who craved fame and being a celebrity, in the end he dies with an audience of just one, watching himself in the mirror. It would have been difficult to have him gain weight for the last stage of AC's life, since a TV series has a short shooting schedule and is filiming scenes mostly out of sequence. It can be easier to fit a weight change in a movie because you can schedule the scenes in different blocks over a longer period. The did try to make him look more haggard and sweaty in those scenes and DC persuadingly played him as impassive and listless (perhaps to try and hide the fact that as you say he looks much better than AC did at that stage), in contrast to the ebullient AC we saw in recent weeks. They even remembered the wound on his leg, which was pointedly featured in close-up in the first episode; you can spot it in a few shots in last night's episode, although we do not get an explanation for it (perhaps another of those bits that got edited out for time, as DC reported in interviews). Police reports mention that AC did have a wound, but on his stomach, and was treating it while in the boathouse; it would have been a visual distraction in the Speedo dancing scene for example which, I just checked, does not even feature the leg wound. The opera scene made a comeback, still ambiguous as to whether it happened, if it was a metaphor or a hallucination in AC's mind: are we to believe that a technician was waiting in the booth to turn off the lights at just the most dramatic moment? Amusingly, even the two actors are still not quite sure whether it is a fantasy or real. Is the shot of Donatella crying with smudged mascara suppose to make us feel sorry for how awful she was? It did not work for me, especially in the wake of the self-pitying "I ignored his call" ugly cry, so badly performed by PC. Ronnie neatly summarised the season's message and the actor did an excellent job with it.
  6. S04.E09: The Gesture

    The reconciliation scene was indeed adorable, especially Patrick's happy reaction at the end. Also the fact that David did not care people could see him through the windows (although there did not seem to be any crowd gathered for the show). I thought that Stevie's makeup could have been pushed a degree or two more into the grotesque, but it did do the job. Will Moira get her comeuppance for inadvertently stealing Alexis' idea and getting the council to decide on a very risky whole week event, instead of the more reasonable one day her daughter had proposed?
  7. S02.E09: Alone

    According to my on-screen guide, the episode takes up an hour and 15 minutes of broadcast time. We should make sure to adjust our recording (or viewing) habits accordingly.
  8. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    Reports are that in his final months, AC lost some of his good looks, gaining weight and looking rough around the edges, probably a consequence of his heavy drug use and bad diet (no more lobster at every meal). You can see that in some of the pictures that look like mug shots but are probably just bad head shots. That's one aspect which they could not fully replicate with the actor who looks pretty much the same throughout the series, except for the hair, softer make-up earlier in the chronology, and baggier clothes during part of his murder spree (but even there they are not consistent).
  9. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    Yes, that's the general understanding about the attitude of US viewers towards subtitles; that reputation might perhaps be a bit exaggerated but subtitled movies do fare less well than dubbed ones in the States. And since this was the opening sequence, the show could have run the risk of having many people tune out because of it.
  10. American Crime Story in the Media

    The panel from yesterday night's Television Academy screening of the finale episode has been posted on YouTube. Not the highest quality, but the sound is clear. There may be spoilers (I have not had time to watch the whole thing). A good chunk of the main cast and some production people took part in the discussion.
  11. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    In that scene, I thought that AC was portrayed as sincere in his belief that there was something more, something real, between him and his older boyfriend. I suppose that the resulting disillusionment could be seen as an education for him, leading to realise that there is an easy path for making money, if he only tweaks the power dynamics in such relationships. I am not sure that AC has been described as being " born evil", probably an excessive notion anyway. However I think that there can be definite predispositions in us, dictated by biology and genetics, which vary from people even in the same family and contribute to shaping one's personality and decisions, in conjunction with education and rearing. Which would explain why in one group of siblings provided with the same general environment growing up and the same educational resources, one can grow up to be a very talented artist while others can't draw a stick figure to save their lives; or why a sister can be proficient in science while her brother can barely remember the difference bewteen an electron and a proton. Or why in a music class everyone gets the same lessons and training but one or two people just have the natural talent and potential to become professional musicians and sometimes great ones, while most of their classmates are at best competent. Same with behavioural traits, including criminality and violence which turn up in some people but not in others. I am not convinced that the show is pushing that broad message or is making the value judgements you are describing regarding those various categories of people, or even ordinary citizens (the category most of us fall in I would surmise). Being a wealthy superstar is not the alpha and omega of measuring achievement, as the pharmacy owner indicated in the previous episode. People can lead productive lives without ever reaching the absolute zenith in their field; a few have it in them, like GV did, some mostly have unrealistic expectations as apparently was the case with AC, and still others consistently just do a good job and can thus be described as successful without being overachievers.
  12. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    Yes. I would easily have watched another two episodes filling up some of the events or developments skipped over in the last two episodes; there is enough material in Orth's book for that, atlhough it would have required some more speculation and plausible recreation. It would also have afforded the writers an opportunity to flesh out the contrast between GV and AC in the younger phases of their lives, especially how they went about making their way in the world, in widely different manners and outlooks.
  13. S02.E08: Creator/Destroyer

    Just as any religious book, the principles advocated by the bible are not to be taken automatically as an absolute moral standard. Besides, there are in that book countless stories of murder, rape, incest, genocide and other forms of violence, often mandated by god. Great inspiration for a potential delusional killer. ETA: Add Barbra Streisand to the list of people who love the show: "But perhaps most entertaining was her exchange with Ryan Murphy after informing him she’d recently binge-watched American Crime Story: The Assassination of Giani Versace. “It’s very scary to me,” she told Murphy. “I had to go fast. I like the parts with Penelope Cruz and Edgar Ramirez, but I don’t like him [Darren Criss as Andrew Cunanan]. He [Criss] was so good but he [Cunanan] was so awful. It’s like ‘Oh this poor individual.’ This is true stuff about him?” A question to which Murphy incredulously replied “Yes,” and then told Streisand, “Barbra, why’d you watch that? That’s not for you. Go and see Glee.”
  14. She's a public figure and the events are part of the historical record, so the producers would not need any permission; think about the number of "unauthorized" biographical books and movies. The Hearst family could refuse to cooperate and try to made it more difficult by letting it be known that they would prefer potential interviewees not to talk during the research phase. But they would have to be careful not to appear to be bullying people into suppressing the project.
  15. American Crime Story in the Media

    Stephen King is enjoying the series and has gone as far as endorsing it on Twitter; a bit late in the run, but I am sure everyone involved with the series will embrace the comment. Meanwhile, ACS: Versace continues to pick up a good number of viewers in shifted viewing: The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story (FX, 3/07/18) – Live+Same Day: 0.917 million viewers / 0.361 million adults 18-49 – Live+3 Day: 2.182 million viewers (+138%) / 0.845 million adults 18-49 (+134%) A similar trend is noted on this site. iTunes sales also seem to remain strong, just as they did last week. It remains to be seen how long episodes will stay on the charts.