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  1. S06.E21: Whatever Remains, However Improbable

    Huh.... strange .... Maybe they're just in a long engagement. ... She'd have insurance problems, if that were true, though!
  2. S06.E21: Whatever Remains, However Improbable

    Yeah, I agree with you! (on both counts -- I'm taking this way too seriously, too. lol) ... Thing is, though -- even though they thought this would be the last season, I got the impression from a remark that JLM (who doesn't seem to say business-related things frivolously) made in the spring (something to the effect of -- "I'd love to do one more season") that they may have been given some inkling when Season 6 was extended that they just might get a Season 7. So if they had any idea at all that they might ultimately get an extension, I expect that while they were writing this finale they would also have gamed out a way to get past the apparent killer roadblock....It might not be the most logical plot twist in the world, but I'd really be surprised if they didn't make sure to come up with some possibility during the planning. They seem to be careful planners, what with all the subtle little connections that appear in the plots for a given season, for instance. I'm pretty sure they got married that weekend after Sherlock talked her into it and showed Gregson the six diamond rings (three of dubious provenance). ....He definitely proposed. And, after all, the main point was to get her on his insurance!
  3. S06.E21: Whatever Remains, However Improbable

    During the Elementary Writers' live tweet for this episode, they were asked whether Gregson and Bell will be on hand for Season 7.....The answer included a quoted line from Season Three's Del Gruner episodes -- " Absolutely!! 'We do this together, or not at all.'" So looks like Gregson and Marcus will be featured players for Season 7, once again..... I expect the writing team has enjoyed writing themselves out of this corner, actually. Isn't that what good fiction writers do?
  4. Small Talk: The Prayer Closet

    Hi, guys. Just want to let everybody know that I'm simply rude enough to leave for months without saying why -- but that I'm in good health. I didn't actually intend to vanish when I did. But I got extra-busy with work and then with a trip and before I knew it a month had gone by when I didn't have the time to write anything here or, eventually, even make brief reading visits. And then I realized that, while I missed you lovely people, I SO did not miss choking with rage at Jim Bob, Meechelle, the hideous Rodriguez parents, etc., several times a week (at least.) So I'm on an impotent-rage hiatus, basically. Trying to save my anger energy for situations I can do something -- even a tiny something -- about. Not giant tin houses where a couple of sickos manage to hold now multiple generations hostage to a rotten, soul-killing (and, in my opinion, society-damaging) philosophy, partly because they keep raking in money and fame from being on TeeVee! So, anyway, I DO miss your interesting and fun voices in our interesting and fun discussions. And I do now make a reading visit every now and then. I may even fall off the wagon and post again at some point! ... I do appreciate what a great group of people you are. .... Very sad to think of Arwen perhaps being gone. And after such a tough struggle, too. Hope it's not true, but ovarian cancer that spreads is a terrible thing. She is -- or was -- a gem. (but she had a lot of company in that here!) ....
  5. That makes mathematical sense. However, your initial presumption is inaccurate, according to the school's documents. (one of which I linked to up above.) The tuition actually varies widely from semester to semester, figured directly according to what courses are taught each semester (the curriculum is apparently standardized.) So the tuition for some early semesters is only around $7,000 or so, and in other semesters it's a lot higher. So in fact they aren't getting any of these cushions. They're charging the kids for the courses they take each semester. https://www.moody.edu/siteassets/content/ug-spokane/tuition-and-fees/2016-2017-flight-cost-estimate.pdf Why are we all so eager to prove that this school is run by a bunch of crooks who take advantage of aspiring little boys?
  6. Yep, I agree that the Rodriguezes don't have money and can afford next to nothing! This isn't an online school or a school with a high tuition, though. It's an offline school with a tuition that's below the national average. So it's not quite this scenario. I think we just differ about our basic ideas about what this school might be doing. My guess is that because this school wants conservative Christian aviation people, they're well accustomed to accepting kids who show some promise but who don't meet some basic standards -- mostly math -- because they've been homeschooled by mommy and her online courses. They don't have a lot of other choices because of the particular beliefs they want their grades to hold. But my guess is also that they may know from their 50-year-plus experience that they can bring a lot of these kids up to standards, and that they aspire to because they really want to keep that missionary aviation pipeline full. Whereas I think your guess is that they're more likely to operate like a diploma mill that tries to rake in as many kids and bucks as they can, even if they make only about two bucks a kid, and that they don't care what happens to those kids, at their school or afterwards. Could go either way, obviously!
  7. Okay, I'm completely confused here. As I understand it, they only get the $150,000 if the kid attends for ALL FIVE YEARS (or at least four and a half years plus however many days he attended in that final semester before he dropped out in despair...).... And if you went far enough to pay in the entire $150,000 you'd have gotten four and a half years plus part of that final semester of training. And that training requires having a bunch of airplanes on site and maintained to FAA standards and insured and with many of them maintained up to FAA standards -- because some students fly them -- so there are certified aviation mechanics on site, and they're pretty expensive, too. If the kid stayed long enough to pay the full amount, I don't see that the school would have much money left over to use for other purposes than educating that kid! According to the College Board the average cost of four years of tuition at private colleges is $133,920. (which would make a five-year cost $167,400). .... So this is a somewhat below-average tuition cost, according to those numbers). Yet all the equipment and stuff they use is very very pricey -- definitely more so than in some other programs. So... I'm really missing why would be such a great irresistible deal for a school to bring in a bunch of kids they're sure will fail (i.e., -- taking HUGE advantage of these sucker kids) just so they can get a somewhat below-national-average amount of tuition from them to pay for a pricey program. What is it about tuition economics that would make this true? Is the assumption that ALL schools rake in a substantial profit from whatever tuitions they charge? $150,000 over five years isn't all that much money, seems to me. I don't see that it would be worth stringing along tons of hopeful-but-academically-doomed Timothys in an equipment-heavy program just to get that $30,000 per annum. I guess I'd hope they aren't cruel and cynical enough to keep on doing that, even if they could skim some bucks from it. ... But I don't even see that these amounts would allow them to skim much -- if at all, really. Well, according to this, tuition and fees for a semester of this program hover between 8000 and 12,000..... They might be able to grift that much ... https://www.moody.edu/siteassets/content/ug-spokane/tuition-and-fees/2016-2017-flight-cost-estimate.pdf
  8. Yeah, you're certainly right that they could do this .... But I expect that vast majority of their students are kids who were either homeschooled or went to very conservative Christian schools. And I think most of those parents absolutely would not want their new graduates to go hanging around at a public (or any non-conservative-Christian) college. I'd think that the parents would see two choices they'd actually find acceptable -- Either the kid gets to take the classes at home online or via the same Christian school he attended for high school OR he gets to take them at a very conservative Christian post-secondary institution.... and most people won't have much access to the latter. So why not just have them come to Moody -- a very conservative-Christian post-secondary institution? Plus, I'll bet a LOT of these kids (practically all, would be my guess) have already taken online math courses and now know nothing. Maybe the school has realized that people can somehow pass YEARS of online math courses without learning anything and they feel more confident having the kids take a math course with an instructor? --maybe in many cases for the first time in their lives? That the kids may be so bored and turned off by all those years of online math that they never learned that just the sight of an online course further handicaps them? Maybe this is their way to help kids actually LEARN some math who've failed to learn it from those online courses they've been taking all their lives? And maybe they DON"T want a really high dropout rate? Maybe they'd rather produce nice full classes of aviation mechanics with the right Christian training? I've gotten the sense that a lot of the comments here are sneers at the school -- first that it's got to be crap. And second that they're just accepting a whole bunch of kids who clearly aren't capable so they can steal their cash and let them drop out with no training that's worth anything..... And what I've been trying to say is that I really doubt that that's the case. I mean, maybe it is, of course. ... .But I sort of think they may well be quite sincere in wanting to have a LARGE well-trained pipeline of very Christian aviation people (pilots AND mechanics and so on). And that they're doing that the best way they can figure out. MMV, of course.
  9. So I guess there's a scenario where they collect 25 to 60-thousand dollars from a lot of kids who flunk out after a year or two? .... I can see that might happen, but I still don't see how it would help the school at all to get that money-- It's not that much money, so wouldn't you use most of it up trying and failing to train those kids? So why would a very high dropout rate help them? ... Yes, this happens in the armed forces. Because that's government money and the idea is to spend as much as it takes to get the best force that it takes ..... But I'm really struggling to understand why a private institution would do that.... What they'd have to gain.....I don't see how they could gain money for it. And it seems to me it'd just hurt their reputation, hurt their ability to train the actual qualified people, and maybe even hurt their reputation in their own Christian community. Anyway, maybe I just completely misread you. I thought you were saying that the school would take anybody because they could make an easy $150,000 off of it. But maybe you weren't saying that at all?
  10. There has to be a bit more than that, though. Aviation IS a heavily regulated industry. And if they really let in just anyone, they wouldn't be able to educate them to standard and eventually would get banned from doing any of it. The school would have to be registered with the FAA, and all the instructors have to be FAA-approved. And I think in most states you have to get state approval as well. Plus, this is a school that is not training amateur pilots but officially declaring that they're not just training professional pilots but training professional aviation mechanics and maintenance people as well. That requires a fairly high level of FAA scrutiny, which is repeated and constant, and is a lot stricter than if they were just setting up a school to train, say, weekend hobby pilots and nothing else. And it all has to be kept updated. Everything they offer has to meet the most recent FAA standards when it comes to the trainers, what they're teaching, etc. FAA scrutiny and rules are no joke. They're the reason that there are so few accidents and casualties involving professionally-maintained and piloted aircraft, not just here but around the world. Since the FAA pioneered a rigorous system and much of the world has followed it. In addition, there's a lot of expensive insurance involved in this enterprise, and the school can't skip over that either. It's a pricey, demanding, and regulated business they're in. They clearly must have a long tradition of not just letting anyone in the door or there's no way they would still be doing it. I'm convinced that that's the math issue. They have to get those kids there so they can actually teach them all the math that their moms skipped over in the dining room-- and be sure that the kids don't just take an online test where they can cheat. The school has to make very major investments in what they're doing, and they wouldn't risk losing it over kids who'd heard from mommy that math didn't matter and therefore cheated on their online test. And they've apparently been offering this stuff for 50 years, so this is a going operation that clearly understands all those requirements and has abided by them. It's not a fly-by-night operation that admits anyone who can scare up the cash. Can't be.
  11. We can hope! ..... Does anybody know very much about this kid? He did get quite the rap from Jill for a while on being a bad seed, kinda..... Maybe he still has some of that spark in there. .... I think it's pretty hard to tell who's going to break out until they actually break out. I know I was very good at hiding my long-held intent, and others do the same .... Meanwhile, some who look feisty on the outside end up being totally tied to the fam. .... Run, Timothy, run.
  12. The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

    Well, they're the only ones that matter. lol And she does look lovely
  13. I think the idea is to train an all-godly-all-the-time group of aviation guys (I assume it's all guys, but I'd love to be wrong) to pilot and work on and with planes.... To form a pipeline for missionary-related flying. I assume some flying involving aid programs, but I've also read about some groups that mainly just fly to convert -- such as by taking missionaries to remote locations and such. Here's the description of the whole program, and, as Jeeves just mentioned, I think I remember Timothy being bound for the mechanic part of it, but I'm not sure when I saw that.... Flying and maintaining planes is REGULATED, so they obviously have to keep up some standards or they'd be banned from doing it. PROGRAMS With Moody Aviation, you can train to be a missionary pilot mechanic or maintenance specialist and develop technical and spiritual skills to equip you for the rigors of mission work. Experience comprehensive training that will prepare you to meet the challenges presented by missions flying and maintenance in diverse environments. When you major in Missionary Aviation Technology, you decide a speciality focus—Flight or Maintenance—and train using a wide variety of mission-specific equipment, including tailwheel and high performance aircraft. Missionary Aviation Technology - Flight Missionary Aviation Technology - Maintenance Flight Major Building on over 65 years of experience in missionary aviation training, the Bachelor of Science in Missionary Aviation Technology degree program provides you with: 49 semester hours of Biblical Studies coursework 18 hours of General Education coursework and the technical training required to prepare you for the vital role in serving the world’s “flying missions.” The Flight major coursework trains you to qualify for FAA Private, Instrument and Commercial certifications. Experience with high performance aircraft exposes you to the challenges associated with mission-field flying and seeks to develop the judgment, skill and overall airmanship required to fly successfully in a wide variety of contexts. Program distinctions include an unparalleled cross-country flight project, as well as training in a wide variety of aircraft used currently on the mission field. Learn More Tuition and Fees https://www.moody.edu/missionary-aviation-technology-spokane/
  14. The Lord will provide? .... Unfortunately, they seem to have done fairly well with this up to now..... at least by their own standards .... But, wow, yeah. Certainly hope the poor kid isn't using loans for this. Yeesh. He'll have to be an even better grifter than his parents -- and for the rest of his life -- to meet the payments on those babies, if he is going to borrow. ....Maybe he's so brainwashed that he really believes that the Lord WILL provide jobs and loan repayments for him later. Yeesh again.