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  1. Spoiler Discussion: The apple was poisoned?!

    It's definitely this. They wrote this Evil Queen villain, who, let's be honest, was pretty great in the first season. She was so deliciously evil, with such fabulous outfits, and it was just so much fun to hate her and look forward to her eventual downfall. The trouble is that villains have shelf lives. At a certain point, you need to defeat them or redeem them. They didn't want to lose the character, so they went with redemption, but the problem there is that to truly properly redeem someone, she needs to change, and if she really changed enough to be properly redeemed, she wouldn't still be that deliciously evil character that they were trying to preserve. So they just basically declared her a good guy, but changed nothing significant about her attitudes and behaviours. And the series has been on a downward slide ever since that declaration. I always thought they should have kept her as the baddie and defeated her after a season or two — but trapping or binding her or something, rather than killing her, so that they could bring her back somehow as the biggest baddest for the series' epic final clash. Heck, you could even work a happy ending for her into that if she somehow was convinced to be redeemed and sacrificed herself for some noble reason, and then we see her being reborn as a new baby in some sort of likely-to-get-a-proper-happy-ending new life or something. But yeah, the point we all seem to come back to is that "redeeming" her without any real change or even remorse for her past actions is what contributed the most to killing this show's potential. Conversely, if they really wanted to write a show where the baddie's happy ending is the endgame, they could have done that too, but the whole POV would have had to shift from day one. That is not the show they presented us with in the first season.
  2. Unpopular Opinions

    I just recently hauled out my DVDs because I needed something familiar to mindlessly binge-watch (still digging this decision). I haven't gotten to Season 3 yet, but I definitely agree that making Lauren evil was a sucky choice, especially when it was so obviously retconned. One of the best things the writers on Grey's Anatomy did was make Derek's wife actually a delightful character. It adds way more interesting nuance to a triangle if one of the points isn't such an obviously unsuitable option. I had nothing against Lauren when she first showed up — it wasn't her fault that the late partner of the man she fell in love with and married turned out to not actually be dead. I mean, I still would have wanted Syd to triumph in the end and reunite with Vaughan, but I would have loved it if they'd written Lauren in a way that allowed for that decision to be a genuine struggle for Vaughan, and for us to actually feel for her when she inevitably got dumped.
  3. The Bachelor in the Media

    Oh god, I hope not.
  4. If they didn't show it, how would you know where the cookies came from? You can't just have a plate of cookies; people will be confused. I just hope it's a bit of an exaggeration for her to say she had no clue. Because the concept of walzing onto a set to direct something without having done any research into what the role entails, or how to do any of it is just... Well, among other things, it's disrespectful. The implication that there's so little to it that you don't need to do any prep work beyond showing up with "ideas" is just so mind-bogglingly dismissive of the work done by good directors. Ugh.
  5. And this is a much bigger problem. You can pretend not to know something your character shouldn't know yet. It's effectively impossible to act like you do know something that your character should know when you don't know it. There's likely to be some of that in any long-running show — especially one that regularly incorporates flashbacks — but it shouldn't happen left, right and centre within a season. Writers should have at least the broad idea of the arc and what elements are important for a season, and they should respect and trust their actors enough to fill them in on the relevant points — even the ones whose characters won't find out about them until later. To do otherwise just does a huge disservice to your story and its believability, your actors, and your audience. This is certainly not the only show guilty of this, but it's definitely one of the more egregious offenders, and it's maddening.
  6. I've heard this sort of argument before, but as a stage actor, I don't really buy it. A good actor can make you believe this is the first time they're learning something despite hvaing played that exact scene for months, and rehearsed it for months before that. And, if it's not a brand-new work, they might have read the whole script well before any of that ever started. So the idea that someone couldn't possibly act surprised unless they actually didn't know what was coming is... well, not really acting, and I'd give most of these people more credit than that.
  7. The Bachelor in the Media

    This conversation has definitely waded into much broader territory on humour and offense and opinions, etc. but this kind of sums it up. The kind of jokes that April Fools jokes usually are tend to be the sort designed to at best embarass the one getting fooled, and are usually much funnier to the fooler. Most such things are more on the harmless end of the spectrum, but they can definitely cross a line, and it's very hard to know exactly where the line is, because it's in a different place for everyone, and who gets to decide when something is "just a joke" and anyone upset by it is being too sensitive, and when something is "genuinely offensive" and the perpetrator is a straight-up jerk? I guess, if one is in the public eye, someone's going to object to pretty much everything you ever say, so you might as well just do you, and expect/ignore the inevitable backlash.
  8. The Bachelor in the Media

    I'm pretty sure that very few, if any, people who post jokes like that are intending to mock infertility. No matter the intentions, though, it is treating pregnancy very lightly, which is often highly upsetting for people who are struggling with it. And one has to basically live under a rock not to get that at this point. So although I have no doubt that they had no intention of hurting or upsetting anyone, they need to get their heads out of their asses if they expect not to get raked over the coals for stuff like this.
  9. I was going to say that there are so many that I don't even know how I'd narrow it down to a top 10 (or 20, or 50...), let alone just one, but then: I think this would have to be it. It started out so well, with Emma getting sucked into the vortex shortly after finding out their true relationship and Snow, without hesitation, being all "Nope. Not doing that again." and jumping in after her. And then... Pretty much nothing. So much interesting territory to cover between all three of them, and we got basically none of it. Definitely the most egregious of the very long list of missed opportunities.
  10. Speaking as someone who has not watched any of it since the second episode (but who inexplicably continues ot hang around these conversations), I haven't hated it because it's lacking certain characters. I was more or less completely indifferent to it because it lacked any of the characters I'd grown to care about. So I quit watching after seeing the last of the characters I did care about, and nothing I've seen, heard, or read since then has made me care enough to start again. As a separate show, maybe it has as much merit as some of the later seasons of the main show, but as something that's ostensibly part of the original, I simply don't care enough about it in that context to hate it.
  11. S22.E12: After the Final Rose

    Now that you mention it, yes, I do recall that there was found to be a general veneer of sleeze over the whole season. Still, though, the whole premise has one person basically lording it over a harem. This sort of behaviour still seems more realistic to me than most... But I suppose if the show (and its audience) was still pretending there was a good shot at real love and marriage, I can see how that would not sit well with that concept. I wonder how it would be received if it had happened now instead of then. Rock of Love remains one of my favourite things to ever grace my TV. I will take a backstage pass over a rose any day.
  12. S22.E12: After the Final Rose

    I never really got all the Charlie hate. The only real difference between what he did and anyone else just dating casually and non-exclusively unless or until they decide to settle down and date one person exclusively is that in normal life, one does not make an announcement of the plan; you just do it. And as long as the women in question were equally free to date around as they chose, I really don't have an issue with it. The realist in me always kind of appreciates it when a lead actually pulls their head out of the Bachelor sand enough to do something that might actually make sense in the real world. That's why what's-his-face who picked nobody is, in a weird way, my favourite (even though I didn't even actually watch that season...). If you truly are ready for marriage and that's your goal, and none of the options presented to you are someone you could actually see yourself marrying, why waste everyone's time? I think it's far worse to pull the rug out from under someone like Arie did. Even if it's a small rug that she was really only barely standing on.
  13. The Bachelor in the Media

    Agreed. That's usually a super important conversation. Considering its importance, it's a bit surprising that it took him until the last second to have it, but I guess there are loads of people who meet, date, and get married in the usual way who also fail to have some of the really important conversations, so I suppose I can see how it might slip through the cracks in this situation. Either way, good for him.
  14. The Bachelor in the Media

    I managed, altough I had some suspicions about what was going to go down. I was kind of hoping for an additional twist after that, though, to really make it the most dramatic thing ever, as there did seem to be a certain element of "No, they really mean it this time." 1. That makes me much less sympathetic to Ross. Especially if her sister's reports of his basically refusing to leave her alone since their breakup are true. That is not acceptable behaviour, and may even cross into illegal territory. Also makes me that much madder about the notion that she should have treated hi more gently. Ick. 2. How many times do you suppose they'll regret watering someone down into nothingness before they consider actually letting someone's personality come through? Lots of people's actual relationship behaviours don't exactly jive with the values they claim to espouse... No idea what his politics are, but I'm certainly not confident about this relationship's chances for long-term success. No matter how much one likes the "chase," and having to work for someone's affections, the constant need to reassure her and work for her affections will get old.
  15. S22.E10: Week 9

    Wait... are you saying he doesn't? Maybe she's actually a booth babe? That would, I imagine, be considered a "tech sales" job — at least as far as Bachelor job titles are concerned. I would also think that being fun and bubbly would be an asset even there, but maybe it's not a requirement? Assuming any reality at all, Ross was 100% set up. He really did seem to believe that she would be happy to see him, and even said that he had no intention of trying to convince her, which definitely makes me lean toward the theory that some producer called him up and told him that Becca still wanted him, and if he showed up in Peru, he could whisk her off into a happy ending. But for that to work, he would also have to want that, and if that's the case, this would rank pretty high up there for skeezy things this franchise has done to people. I was surprised at how un-bothered he seems about telling both of these women that he loves them. But maybe they had to cut some of his angst to fit in Ross. With five hours next week, no matter what insane thing goes down, surely that leaves plenty of time for tortured-Arie-is-torn scenes. Regardless, though, dude's gonna have some splainin' to do when this is over.